Stronach signals move beyond farce
The thing I still don’t get how Stronach believes her cosying up with Martin is going to quel separatist fires in Quebec, unless of course she doesn’t. Best quote of the day was found by Terrence Corcoran for his Financial Post commentary:
“This is a move by big money. Magna Corp., controlled by Stronach’s father, and the Desmarais’ Power Corp. machine backing Martin, making a corporate merger to maintain control over this country. In yet another clumsy manoeuvre that compromises the federalist option, Martin has now set the national debate as a choice between a sovereign Quebec based on principles of social democracy and a federal Canada run by corporate oligarchy.”
-disgraced Quebec Liberal bagman Beryl Wajsman
Andrew Coyne, as always, shines at well-argued invective (not available online due to “copyright issues”, read: the lead quote from the Great Gatsby forced a take down?!? So glad Canadian law protects us from fair use.).
We can see now what the 9nine days were for, why the government refused to resign, or call an immediate confidence vote, after it was defeated in the House last Tuesday, but instead insisted, against all precedent, that it was entitled to remain in office until a week Thursday. The loss of a confidence vote is no longer to be taken as a fundamental loss of democratic legitimacy, but rather as a signal to spend more, threaten louder and otherwise trawl for votes on the opposite benches, for as long as proves necessary. It took only a few days this time, but after all nine days can stretch into two weeks, and two weeks could as easily be three, and then we’re into a month, and then it’s recess. Indeed it is an open question whether the Liberals would have even held the budget vote if they hadn’t made this deal, or whether they would have promised one if it were not already in the works.
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Is it a constitutional crises if no one understands it is? A government without the support of a majority of Parliament has spent billions it has no legal authority to spend and dangled offices that are not in its power to bestow, in hopes of recovering that majority.
Now there’s THIS:
Surrey Conservative MP Gurmant Grewal alleges that the Liberals offered him and his wife plum posts if he helped their minority government survive.
Grewal said the Liberals promised him an ambassadorship, or a Senate seat for his wife Nina � also a Tory MP � if he didn’t vote against the budget in Thursday’s confidence vote.
Grewal alleges he made an audio recording of the offer, which he said came from Liberal Health Minister Ujjal Dosanjh and Tim Murphy, Prime Minister Paul Martin’s chief of staff.
“I was given an understanding that I would be rewarded in some fashion,” Grewal said at an Ottawa news conference on Wednesday.
“Some of the options discussed were different diplomatic appointments or a future senate seat for Nina.”
UPDATE: Audio of the offer. If this is Tim Murphy the government is through… I mean it has to be right? right?
May 20th, 2005 at 13:34
Dear Mr. Corcoran,
I have always enjoyed your work and I thank you for quoting me in context in today’s column, but I assure you that despite Christie Blatchford’s opinion I am hardly disgraced. Our Institute’s membership has risen by over a thousand since my testimony because I was one of the few who dared to speak the truth about the Liberal Party in Quebec.
As a matter of fact, the evidence presented by Commission Counsel on the second day of Daniel Dezainde’s appearance put into question his whole testimony about me. And there is more to come on Dezainde. If you based your adjective on Christie’s article, I can tell you the back story to that hatchet job if we ever meet in person. Meanwhile have a look at some excerpts of the coverage I received and a few of the hundreds of messages of support…and I include a complimentary note from Christie just two months ago on a piece I wrote on the Schiavo affair.
Cheers
Beryl Wajsman
President
From: Blatchford, Christie [mailto:CBlatchford@globeandmail.ca]
Sent: March 27, 2005 9:08 AM
To: Institute for Public Affairs
Subject: RE: Blind Justice.doc
what an excellent article that is. the last line is fabulous.
thanks for sending it to me.
cheers,
christie
From: Anthony Philbin
Sent: May 15, 2005 10:18 PM
It would be naive of anyone to presume that a contemporary newspaper editor isn’t directed from time to time to run an opinion that he or she isn’t comfortable with. Obviously it’s part of the job. Perhaps this was the case with the recent report ran on the Gomery testimony of Beryl Wajsman.
Mr. Wajsman’s charity, integrity and commitment to social justice are well-known and well documented in the archives of every major paper. He is one of the very few men I have had the pleasure of meeting who truly understands the importance and responsibility of personal honour. The values Mr. Wajsman champions are the values that all of us go to bed believing we are here to support and defend.
Anthony L.M. Philbin
BPW Gomery Testimony
English audio excerpts of the testimony:
http://www.iapm.ca/media/gomeryaudio.mp3
For a fuller understanding of my testimony please read
“Paul Martin’s Legacy of Stone: The Death of Trudeau Liberalism”
at the following link on our website:
http://www.iapm.ca/newsmanager/anmviewer.asp?a=426&z=8
Fromm: Jennifer Tryon
Sent: May 12, 2005 4:27 PM
To: ‘Institute for Public Affairs of Montreal’
Hey… nice job on LCN. You’re everywhere.
Jennifer Tryon
CFCF News
—–Original Message—–
From: Romano Dave
Sent: May 13, 2005 1:09 AM
To: Beryl Wajsmann
Subject: good job
Beryl — saw you on the French news this
evening — great job! I think people may respond
quite well to the kind of “fed-up with it anger” you
displayed!
Cheers,
David H. Romano, Ph.D.
McGill University
CBC Radio One “The Current” with Anthony Germain
http://www.iapm.ca/media/thecurrent.mp3
From: charles.coffey
To: bpwajsmann@iapm.ca
Subject: WELL SAID
Good morning my friend,
Heading up Hwy. 28 to my cottage south of Bancroft and who do I hear on CBC’s The Current?
I loved your description “the Elvis Presley haircut, pencil thin mustache, and sweating”. I could not introduce such a character to anyone either. Well said. I will be thinking of you later today as you appear at the Commission.
Good luck.
Charles S. Coffey
RBC
Random Notes
Random notes on the issues of the day
An Honest Liberal?
By
Steve Stinson
I know, it sounds like an oxymoron. More and more it looks like all Liberals are liars. It has gotten to the point where they even call each other liars. But, I do not believe all Liberals are dishonest. These days, however, any Liberal who is fundamentally honest must feel awfully uncomfortable with Adscam and subsequent efforts of the Liberal Party to sidestep any responsibility for the scandal.
Consequently, it was with some relief that I read a letter from Beryl Wajsman, posted on Captain’s Quarters (http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/) last night. After having his name pop up in previous testimony at the Gomery inquiry, it seems Wajsman is chomping at the bit to tell his side of the story. As he puts it, “my story is one of a party reformer opposed, not a party consultant enriched.”
After a long talk with Wajsman this afternoon, I am more than willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. I would encourage my readers to have a gander at some of his articles on the web site of the Institute for Public Affairs of Montreal, of which he is president. We may finally have a Liberal who seems to genuinely put integrity ahead of self interest.
There is little doubt that Wajsman is an unrepentant “liberal” who is passionate about his beliefs. He finds inspiration in Trudeau’s just society and envisages “a national political culture where victory is won on the battlefields of ideals and principles are never vanquished in the backrooms of deals.”
One thing for sure, he is not one to acquiesce to authority. As he inveighs against the corporatism that permeates the Canadian state, he assures me, “we are going to expose who is running this country.” And by this, he does not mean the politicians
From: John Angus
Sent: May 13, 2005 5:25 PM
To: Beryl P Wajsmann
Subject: Today
Dear Beryl,
I watched as much as I could of your appearance today. I think you did an amazing job of getting the truth out and setting the record straight. It was a classic performance.
John F. Angus
From: Jacques Berkowitz
Sent: May 13, 2005 5:19 PM
To: ‘Institute for Public Affairs’
Subject: Re Gomery
Great job Beryl,
It is obvious that non Jews and in general people who have no connection to the holocaust cannot sense / perceive / react to situations which many of us have.
Me. Jacques Berkowitz
LA PRESSE
Wajsman descend en flammes
ses ex-collègues libéraux
Karim Benessaieh
Le samedi 14 mai 2005
Beryl Wajsman a émises les opinions hier avec une grande verve. Il a dit,
«Ce bureau (la permanence du parti à Montréal) était pourri. L’attitude des gens était froide, je ne pouvais avoir de rapports, il n’y avait pas de collaboration, mon courrier était ouvert avant qu’il ne m’arrive entre les mains.»
Ses relations avec Daniel Dezainde, elles, ont viré à l’orage dès leur première rencontre, en mai 2001. M. Wajsman affirme avoir expliqué ses fonctions au tout nouveau directeur général, en précisant qu’il serait souhaitable que des représentants des communautés culturelles puissent siéger à certaines instances du parti. M. Dezainde aurait sèchement refusé.
«C’est un raciste, a tranché M. Wajsman. Quand il m’a dit: Ces gens ne s’assoiront pas à la commission des finances avec un sourire froid, l’oeil froid, je lui ai dit: Qui sont ces gens dont vous parlez? Les bruns, les jaunes?La vengeance est un plat qui se mange froid. Je lui ai répondu: Vous insistez pour tout faire derrière des portes closes. Moi, je veux tout faire de façon transparente. Vous ne vous tenez pas aux côtés des vôtres.»
En point de presse peu après son témoignage, M. Wajsman en a profité pour lancer des flèches vers le premier ministre Paul Martin, l’accusant d’avoir téléguidé le témoignage de Daniel Dezainde.
From: Jack Kupfert
Sent: May 15, 2005 6:39 PM
To: Institute for Public Affairs
Beryl tremendous - keep on hammering them.
Regards
Jack Kupfert
Ex-Grit fundraiser blames ‘turf war’ for dismissal
TORONTO SUN
STEPHANIE RUBEC
SUN OTTAWA BUREAU
A former Liberal fundraiser says he never took envelopes stuffed with cash or engaged in influence-peddling, blaming a “turf war” over the Liberals’ Quebec bank accounts for his firing. Beryl Wajsman, a longtime Liberal who prides himself on his connections with Montreal’s ethnic communities, said he’s preparing to run for PM Paul Martin’s job to bring integrity back to his party.
Wajsman bowled over the Adscam inquiry in Montreal yesterday with feisty testimony about his attempt to reform the Liberal party’s Quebec wing finances and fundraising. “It became a turf war,” Wajsman said, suggesting the newly appointed executive director Daniel Dezainde in May 2001 was wrongly trying to freeze out Gagliano, the former public works minister.
Wajsman said he was hired by Gagliano and his right-hand man, Joseph Morselli, in January 2001 for $5,000 a month to recruit the ethnic communities, denying Dezainde’s allegations that he was peddling his influence to party donors by forwarding their requests to then-PM Jean Chrétien.
“If that’s not the Liberal party of today, that we can’t sensitize our prime minister … that’s not my Liberal party anymore,” Wajsman said. Wajsman said he repeatedly butted heads with Dezainde, labeling him a “racist” for refusing to let leaders of cultural groups sit on the finance commission.
“Daniel Dezainde looked at me with very cold eyes and a very thin smile and said these people are never getting into the heart of the finance commission,” Wajsman said. “I said, ‘Daniel, who are these people? The brown ones, the yellow ones or those whose names you don’t like?’ ”
WARRENKINSELLA.COM
Some of the testimony at the sponsorship inquiry Friday was quite colourful as former Liberal fundraiser Beryl Wajsman delivered several one-liners. Some highlights:
- “I said to Joe (Morselli): I am not sitting here … bringing in money to pay the salaries of six people, one of whom is doing nothing but organizing broomball festivals when he’s supposed to be an organizer for Quebec west.'’
- “I don’t want to name names, Mr. Commissioner, because it seems every time a name comes out of here, they become the spawn of the devil and the press goes bananas.'’
- “Thank God I was habitually late (at Frank’s restaurant) as I always am. God knows what would have happened had I arrived on time, I might have been accused of the Lizzie Borden murders.'’ Wajsman commenting on a meeting he attended at which, according to Brault, an envelope containing $5,000 disappeared when he went to the bathroom.
- “I’m sorry, Mr. (lawyer Guy) Cournoyer, if I’m going ahead but stop me if I’m … (Cournoyer replies): “You’re unstoppable, sir.'’
—–Original Message—–
From: Jean-Paul Ruszkowski
Sent: May 15, 2005 10:21 AM
To: Institute for Public Affairs of Montreal
Hello Beryl,
Congratulations on your performance
at the Gomery Commission.
Jean-Paul Ruszkowski
Ottawa
LA PRESSE
Actualités, vendredi 13 mai 2005
Beryl Wajsman contre-attaque
Nicolas Bérubé
Éclaboussé par le témoignage de Daniel Dezainde devant la commission Gomery, l’ancien collecteur de fonds de l’aile québécoise du parti libéral du Canada (PLC), Beryl Wajsman, se défend d’avoir agi dans l’illégalité en sollicitant des dons des communautés culturelles.
Selon lui, le ” vrai boss ” n’était pas Joe Morselli, comme l’a dit M. Dezainde devant la commission, mais bien Dezainde lui-même, ” qui cherchait à s’accaparer tous les pouvoirs ” et qui ” refusait d’ouvrir le parti ” aux différentes communautés culturelles.
” Je lui rendais des comptes, je lui donnais les chèques faits au nom du Parti libéral. Il me regardait avec des yeux froids en me disant: Je ne suis pas intéressé “, dit M. Wajsman.
” Aujourd’hui, Daniel Dezainde essaie, dans un dernier effort, de salir la réputation de tout le monde qui n’est pas avec le clan Martin. Mais ça ne marchera pas, parce que j’ai déposé mes preuves, qui seront présentées devant la commission Gomery. ”
M. Wajsman est président de l’Institut des affaires publiques de Montréal. Dans son CV publié sur son site Web, il indique avoir a été organisateur libéral lors de huit élections, membre de diverses commissions régionales et comités consultatifs ” et autres postes quasi officiels au sein de l’aile québécoise du PLC ”
From: Jim Kovalsky
Sent: May 13, 2005 4:31 PM
To: bpwajsmann@iapm.ca
Dear Sir,
I write this message to commend you on your forthright and honest testimony at the Gomery Commission. Your exuberance and passion for justice is evident and an inspiration. It is unfortunate that individuals such as yourself do not have more influence in guiding the direction of our national will.
James Kovalsky
CANADIAN PRESS
Colourful Ex-Liberal Fundraiser Denies Taking Cash
MONTREAL (CP) - A former Liberal fundraiser said Friday he never took a cash-stuffed envelope from ad man Jean Brault when he met him at an Italian restaurant. Beryl Wajsman, President of the Institute for Public Affairs of Montreal told the sponsorship inquiry he had nothing to do with the alleged $5,000 cash exchange at Ristorante Frank that Brault said was one of several illicit donations made to the Liberals.
“There was no money exchanged, there was no envelope,” Wajsman told commission counsel Guy Cournoyer in one of the most colourful appearances seen at the Gomery commission. “I don’t take cash,” added Wajsman, one-time aide to Irwin Cotler before Cotler was named justice minister.
The Montreal community activist, says he met Brault at the restaurant in the summer of 2001 to discuss business opportunities but that nothing panned out. Also present, according to Brault and Wajsman, was Joseph Morselli, an associate of Alfonso Gagliano.
Wajsman says that when Brault’s testimony came to light last month, Morselli told him over the telephone that Brault was “full of shit” and that there was no envelope of cash.
LE DEVOIR
POLITIQUE, samedi 14 mai 2005, p. a3
Commission Gomery
Beryl Wajsman :
Dezainde, un raciste; Gagliano, faible
Brian Myles
C’est un Beryl Wajsmann tout feu tout flamme qui a qualifié Daniel Dezainde de «raciste» lors de son bruyant passage à la commission Gomery hier.
Beryl Wajsman soutient qu’il a été renvoyé en raison du racisme de Daniel Dezainde, qui refusait d’ouvrir les portes de la commission des finances aux membres des communautés culturelles. «Daniel Dezainde m’a regardé avec des yeux froids et un mince sourire et m’a dit: “Ces gens-là n’entreront jamais au coeur de la commission des finances.” Je lui ai dit: “Daniel, nous n’avons plus rien à nous dire.”»
«C’était un raciste, a-t-il ajouté. J’ai été impliqué avec les communautés culturelles toute ma vie. Je suis né en Russie, j’ai perdu 70 membres de ma famille dans l’Holocauste. Il y a des choses que tu ressens ou que tu sais.»
M. Wajsman avait reçu son mandat de l’organisateur en chef du PLC au Québec, Alfonso Gagliano. Toutes les deux semaines, il se rapportait au ministre et à son fidèle lieutenant, Joe Morselli. Il devait non seulement recueillir des fonds auprès des communautés culturelles mais les mener à s’impliquer davantage dans les rouages de la machine libérale.
C’est donc à M. Gagliano que M. Wajsmann s’est plaint lorsqu’il a été congédié par une bande de «racistes» et «d’incompétents» incapables d’organiser autre chose de mieux que des soirées «de ballon-balai» pour renflouer le parti. Dans une lettre adressée au ministre Gagliano, M. Wajsmann se vante d’avoir amassé 300 000 $ en deux cocktails pour le parti, en février et juin 2001. Pour six mois de travail, M. Wajsmann a quant à lui touché des honoraires de 27 500 $ en plus d’un remboursement pour des dépenses de 13 797 $.
—–Original Message—–
From: Albert A. ZBILY
Sent: May 15, 2005 11:14 PM
To: Institute for Public Affairs
Beryl, you sure are colourful. I saw your testimony
and read the media read-out. What can I tell you.
The best thing going for you is your meticulous record
keeping. Good for you. I hope this gives you the
fuel to expand the institute across Canada and maybe
also to take on the Liberal Party.
Best regards,
Albert A. Zbily, M.A
LE SOLEIL
samedi 14 mai 2005,
Accusations de racisme
Wajsman tire à boulets rouges sur Dezainde
Mylène Moisan
Montréal - Quand Beryl Wajsman a quitté en juin 2001 le PLC section Québec, il laissait un “bureau pourri”, miné par le “racisme” du directeur général et par “une guerre interne”. Il avait été engagé comme “consultant” six mois plus tôt, directement par Alfonso Gagliano et Joseph Morselli.
Aux yeux de Beryl Wajsman, qui a travaillé en 2001 au PLC(Q), il ne fait aucun doute que Daniel Dezainde est un “employé de Paul Martin” dans ce qui est “sa dernière tentative pour attaquer la réputation des gens” et, par ricochet, pour sauver sa peau.
M. Wajsman a plutôt raconté qu’à son arrivée en décembre 2000, “l’ancien réseau de financement du Parti était brûlé”, selon ce que lui aurait dit Benoît Corbeil, alors directeur général. C’est justement pour cette raison que le ministre Alfonso Gagliano s’est tourné vers son ami Joseph Morselli pour “remettre sur pied la Commission des finances”. Et, pour aller frapper à la porte des communautés culturelles, MM. Morselli et Corbeil ont embauché M. Wajsman.
M. Wajsman affirme que “tout était fait au grand jour. Rien n’était caché. Je remettais tous les chèques que je percevais à Daniel Cloutier (le comptable du PLC-Québec), ils étaient tous faits à l’ordre du Parti”. Par contre, il n’a jamais rencontré la présidente du Parti, Françoise Patry, ni le conseil de direction. “Je ne savais même pas qu’il y en avait un”, a-t-il lancé, insistant sur le fait qu’il n’était “pas un employé”, mais un “consultant” agissant avec un “mandat” de M. Gagliano.
Le mandat en question prévoyait qu’il approche les communautés culturelles et les amène à contribuer au Parti. En six mois, il a organisé deux cocktails, “prononcé des conférences et des discours”, assemblé un recueil des programmes gouvernementaux à partir d’information disponible dans Internet et, affirme-t-il, produit un rapport de ses activités qu’il remettait à Benoît Corbeil et à M. Morselli.
Quand M. Dezainde a succédé à M. Corbeil, M. Wajsman a déchanté. La première rencontre a eu sur lui l’effet d’une douche froide, se rappelle-t-il. “Je lui ai tout expliqué, comment ça marchait, je lui ai montré les lettres que j’avais reçues, les remerciements”, mais M. Dezainde serait resté de glace.
M. Wajsman est sorti fâcher du bureau. Pourquoi ? a demandé le commissaire John Gomery. “Parce qu’il (M. Dezainde) est raciste. Il m’a dit “Ces gens-là (provenant des communautés culturelles) ne siégeront pas sur cette commission” (des finances), malgré l’engagement de M. Gagliano. Je lui ai demandé : “Qui sont ces gens-là ? Les bruns, les jaunes, les gens qui ne sont pas de souche ?” Il n’a pas répondu. Sourire froid. Regard froid. Je suis parti.”
Impliqué en politique depuis les années 70, alors qu’il était bénévole dans la circonscription de Pierre Elliott Trudeau, M. Wajsman a une piètre opinion de M. Gagliano, qui “n’a pas les capacités intellectuelles ou le charisme” d’un “Jean Marchand ou Marc Lalonde”. Mais il lui en veut surtout à cause de son “manque de courage”, pour ne pas avoir plaidé en sa faveur auprès de M. Dezainde.
Au cours d’une rencontre tout juste avant son congédiement, après que Gagliano l’eut invité à faire preuve de patience, il a dit au ministre : “Je ne peux pas vous pardonner pour ne pas vous tenir debout. N’auriez-vous pas dû me dire ce qu’on dit dans mon dos? (M. Dezainde s’était plaint de M. Wajsman au ministre.) Je m’attends à ça du nid de couleuvres, mais pas du ministre qui m’a donné un mandat.”
Le “nid de couleuvres” dont il parle, c’est la permanence du Parti à Montréal, “12 000 pieds carrés pour six personnes” qui “ne font rien”. Contraint à composer avec l’”attitude froide” de ses collègues, M. Wajsman s’est plaint de n’avoir “pas de rapports sur ce qui arrivait aux chèques que je ramassais, mon courrier était ouvert avant qu’on me le remette. Il y avait une frustration générale, les gens ne faisaient rien”.
Dans une lettre qu’il écrit à M. Gagliano, il lui explique “ce que je faisais et mes frustrations. Je lui rappelais ses engagements, que je n’allais pas travailler pour six bons à rien, que le Parti ne m’appuyait pas”. Il la lui remet Chez Frank. Joseph Morselli est présent. M. Gagliano l’a lue lentement. “Et m’a dit “Vous avez absolument raison”. Il m’a redonné la lettre en me disant “Je ne peux pas avoir ça en ma possession”. Il a dit “Calme-toi, je vais lui parler, ça va s’arranger”. Ça ne s’est pas arrangé.”
En point de presse au sortir de son passage à la Commission Gomery hier, il a qualifié de “fiasco (traduction de mess)” l’enquête menée depuis un an sur le scandale des commandites. Il a également confié vouloir se lancer dans la prochaine course au leadership du Parti libéral du Canada.
CAPTAIN’S QUARTERS
Beryl Wajsman Interview At CQ with Edward Morrissey
This evening, I had the pleasure of speaking at length with Beryl Wajsman, the president of Institute for Public Affairs of Montreal and an upcoming witness for the Gomery Inquiry looking into Adscam. Our first contact came when Beryl posted an unsolicited statement in CQ’s comments section, which I reposted separately to ensure that everyone had a chance to read it.
Beryl, it turns out, is a man who does not remain silent gladly. As his statement suggests, he is a man of strong opinions and convictions, a man who speaks bluntly, and someone who needs little prompting to discuss difficult subjects. Despite the differences in our political viewpoints, I found Beryl very convincing and his enthusiasm contagious. He cannot wait to appear before Gomery and tell his story to the Inquiry.
However, as he made plain during our interview, he sees the Gomery Inquiry as a red herring — a machination that allows Prime Minister Paul Martin to deflect attention from his own peccadilloes. Beryl speaks about Martin’s scandals in some detail during our interview, as well as his connections to Power Corporation, the TotalElfFina Group, and the Desmarais family. He told me that the Canadian media has focused on Gomery instead of Martin’s much more extensive (and expensive) financial manipulations simply because Gomery stories write themselves, and the media doesn’t have to lift a finger to get the updates.
If you expect to get inside scoop on Adscam corruption, you won’t find it in this interview. Beryl didn’t do any work for the Sponsorship Program, and as his upcoming testimony will show, he burnt his bridges at the Liberal Party well before Jean Brault alleges that Wajsman was present at a cash drop (which reporters mistakenly attributes as an accusation that he took a payoff, which isn’t what Brault said at all.). He does give an insider’s look at some of the players involved in the scandal, though, including Martin, Alfonso Gagliano, and Daniel Dezainde, who he called a “racist”. He also gives his own unique analysis of Canadian politics and talks about his plans for the future.
I hope that over the next few days, you’ll keep up with the posts of this extraordinary interview as I get them transcribed. Beryl’s is a voice that not only should be heard, it practically demands it.
May 20th, 2005 at 14:09
I’m thrilled to have such a great comment posted here, but I am not Terrance Corcoran, and I am pretty sure he doesn’t read this blog.
Thanks anyway, your information was enlightening.
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